Pointers and Quotes

Pointers in Bob’s own words, collected from his talks and books — followed by the “realize” passages transcribed by Kat, and quotes from his teacher, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj.

Pointers from Bob

“You will never ever find the answer in the mind. Mind is to grasp things, it cannot comprehend the no-thing.”

“I AM not speaking to any body; I AM not speaking to any mind. I AM speaking to THAT I AM, that I AM. To that PRESENCE AWARENESS that expresses through the mind as the thought I AM. Just THIS, NOTHING else.”

“Belief in dualistic thinking is the problem. In non-dual awareness, dualism only appears to be so. How can there ever be any duality in non-duality?”

“The reflection is not in the mirror, but of the mirror. You cannot say it isn’t there, but you cannot say it is — try and grab it if you can.”

“‘Knowing’ is what I call intelligence — not the intellect but Intelligence. That is the activity of knowing — intelligence energy. Knowing is an activity of something that is going on in the immediacy of the moment. Any activity is a movement of energy. Not the content of knowing — I know this or I know that, that is all acquired, conceptualized, words stuff. It is the basic activity of knowing, something that is happening now. It is this energy or life force or whatever label you want to put on it and it is functioning in the immediacy of the moment. That is what you are.”

“Subject-object thinking seems to cover the natural state (awareness). But without awareness, thinking could not take place. Because thinking appears in awareness (like a cloud appears in the sky), realise that thinking is in essence awareness. Understanding this, thinking cannot obscure awareness.”

Quote card: Ego is a dead image — it cannot keep up with life Quote card with Nisargadatta Maharaj and Sailor Bob: There is no such thing as peace of mind — peace is when mind is not

“Whatever is translated or conceptualised as other than presence awareness need not be resisted, but simply recognised as it is — pure presence awareness appearing as other — always, only and ever That. Knowing that, conceptualising falls away and bare awareness remains unconcerned with thought. An effortless being — just this.”

“Truth or reality cannot be stored, cannot be amassed — it does not accumulate. The value of any insight, understanding, or realisation can only be in the ever-fresh presence of the moment. Yesterday’s realisation is not a bit of good — it is dead, it has lost its vitality. It is useless to try and cling to or hold onto an insight, understanding, or realisation, for only in its movement can ever-fresh and new insights of truth or reality appear. The idea of enlightenment or self-realisation as a onetime event or a lasting and permanent state or experience is an erroneous concept. Understand-ING or know-ING is alive in the immediacy which can never be negated. The emphasis is on the activity of know-ING which is going on as the immediacy now — not the dead concept I understand or I know.”

“Emptiness, suffused with intelligence (knowing), can be a useful pointer or description, but remember; the description can never be the described. It is a valuable pointer only if in looking or seeing there is a recognising of the actuality of this natural emptiness. Every-thing comes from, appears in, and returns to this natural emptiness. The coming and going of things is transient, but the cognising emptiness, being empty, does not come and go. Being empty, it is of itself no thing. It can never be filled or emptied of things, for things appearing in emptiness have no independent nature of themselves. In reality things are the same emptiness appearing as other. Every-thing perceived is emptiness. There can only be a problem if things (including the so-called ‘see-er’), are believed to be other than the natural emptiness.”

Sun breaking through clouds over the sea
Behind the clouds the sky is always there, and the sun is always in the sky — even if temporarily obscured.

“Re-call, re-cognise, or re-mind — I am That I am. That is awareness. To whom could it matter what activity, thought, event, or happening occurs. Knowing that, events and activities occur like the grass growing by itself, with nothing superior or inferior which could possibly be anything other than That. Self-activated intelligence-energy — just this, nothing else.”

“Because awareness is self-existing, there is no effort needed or anyone who can make an effort to get it or lose it. The natural state is never lost. It is not an appearance and therefore can never disappear. It is always the same — it is not an entity. Realise that the conceptual thinker and conceptual thoughts seemingly obscure the non-conceptual natural state. Pause a thought even for an instant and the natural state is fully evident. STOP and SEE. In the seeing, pure awareness gets used to itself.”

“In recognising presence awareness, there is no thing to see, just natural non-conceptual seeing, as it actually is — without subject or object. In seeing this, the realisation is immediate — that what is labelled as awareness, consciousness or mind can never be formulated as either a subject or an object. Being empty of a subject or object, it is emptiness seeing — cognising emptiness. Emptiness can never be emptied of emptiness, nor can it be filled by emptiness. With that concept cancelled out, only the wordless, thoughtless, indescribable emptiness remains. Not a vacuum or a void, but a vivid self-shining, self-knowing, self-aware emptiness, like a clear sky full of light. See for yourself — no one can do it for you. Immediate simplicity — continue to see that the seeing is continuous. Any doubt, question, or argument, and the conceptual seeker seemingly appears again. Yet in that seeing, non-conceptual emptiness remains undisturbed.”

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“It’s an illusion that ‘you’ exist. The entity ‘you’ is imagined. Imagining that ‘you’ exist as something or someone separate is the cause of acceptance or rejection of something known. It is illusion telling the story of its own deception. The knower and the known are just concepts seemingly dividing natural non-conceptual knowing. Believing in the thought ‘I am’ gives seeming reality to the objective world which is constantly changing, yet everything in essence is that changeless natural knowing — nothing else.”

“Self-shining presence-awareness requires no effort. There is no need to try to do something with the expectation that suddenly awareness will be there. Presence-awareness is always here and now whether it is recognised or seemingly lost. It is not something that can be created or destroyed. Conceptual thinking is like a cloud that seemingly blocks the sun. Being at ease in non-conceptual naturalness is presence-awareness, already here and now. Re-cognise again, and again, and again, and despite what is appearing and disappearing, the knowing it is always so is constant. Self-knowing, self-shining — just this, nothing else.”

“Recognise the naturalness that you are — pure, all-pervasive, space-like, ever-expressing, spontaneous presence-awareness, with no reference point having any substance or independent existence. Failing to recognise naturalness (the unity of appearance and emptiness, space and its content), delusion happens and there is a grasping of or fixation on appearance — me and the other, a seeming duality. Without that fixation, there is freedom as naturalness. Delusion dissolves and evenness (non-duality) remains — the natural state, simply this, nothing else. Naturally remaining as naturalness (equanimity), is the natural (effortless) meditation of no one to meditate and nothing to meditate on — of no trying to get or trying to avoid, just effortless being which is always already so. Recognise this again and again.”

Nisargadatta Maharaj quote card: When I am nothing this is wisdom, when I am everything this is love Quote card with Nisargadatta Maharaj and Sailor Bob: There is no such thing as peace of mind — peace is when mind is not

Bob, in dialogue

Exchanges from the meetings, as transcribed by Kat.

Q: Bob, I can hear the message. I’m just not really sure if I understand it. I’m looking for this kind of thing that confirms the understanding.

Bob: What’s going to confirm it for you? Do you believe that you are, or do you know that you are?

Q: I know that I am.

Bob: You know that you are. That’s confirmation, isn’t it?

Q: I can’t negate it. I can’t help but knowing it — that I am.

Bob: You can’t help it. That’s the confirmation.


Q: I hear people say it’s possible to be aware of deep sleep. How is that possible?

Bob: You’re aware of your unawareness. When you wake up in the morning, you say, “I had a deep sleep” — how do you know? There must have been an awareness of nothing going on. The mind was in abeyance at that time. But you were still breathing. Your heart was still beating. Food was being digested. Cells were being replaced. There was so much activity taking place, and yet that thinking was in abeyance. It was resting. Somebody calls you in deep sleep — you hear it. Hearing was still there.


From a discussion on free will:

Bob: First establish if there is anyone there to have this free will, or to have an ego to control things or choose thoughts and actions. Controlling happens just like seeing, hearing, thinking. Deciding happens, but there is no decision-maker. Choosing happens, but there is no choice-maker. Some call it choiceless awareness.


Bob: It’s the one essence. What’s another good term we can use for what we’re talking about? Wouldn’t it be life? Nisargadatta says, “There’s only life. Nobody who lives a life.”

Q: You can’t say anything without that life essence. You can’t separate yourself from the life.

Bob: No. You can’t separate anything from life, can you? Life doesn’t know death. Life is continually living on life. Out of life, more life comes.


Bob: We use the metaphor of the blue sea. You go down to the blue sea. You’ll see a blue sea. Try and get a bucket of water out of it — you know the sea is not blue, it never was blue, never could be blue. But it doesn’t stop how it’s expressing or appearing. It’s appearing as blue, but knowing the truth about it, you’re free of the erroneous belief that it’s blue. You’re free of the erroneous belief that you are a separate entity when you investigate it. You realize you can only be that one life essence, appearing and expressing as everything. You always have been, always will be.

Bob on “realize”

Sentences copied from a couple of Kat’s earlier transcriptions, where Bob organically uses the word “realize”.

Bob at a group meeting

From his teacher, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

In 1976/77 Bob spent twelve months with Nisargadatta Maharaj in Bombay — the lineage these meetings carry on.

“Learn to live without self-concern. For this you must know your own true being as indomitable, fearless and ever-victorious. Once you know with absolute certainty that nothing can trouble you but your own imagination, you come to disregard your desires and fears, concepts and ideas, and live by truth alone.”

“Just realise you are dreaming a dream you call the world and stop looking for ways out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all or none of it and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs to be done.”

The pointing cards

Sailor Bob’s Sea and Sky 4R nonduality pointing cards: a deck of 88 cards in 4 colours, with pointers to Reflect on, Resonate with, Recognize and Relax into THAT. See Cards for the physical, virtual and bundle options, or order from Kat’s eBay store.

Pointing card: Intelligence-energy means an activity of knowing — cognising emptiness is space with the capacity to cognise Pointing card: Neither blissful nor unpleasant experience is the Ultimate Truth Pointing card: Everything is That — only disguised as anger, grief, joy, etc. Pointing card: See through the identity that you think you are

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